I’d love that! I’ll take a PP20 since it’s available but would love both!
U mean the HanDi PP19 Bizon ? That trash item is never going to akgelblaster’s shelves my bro
anything akgelblaster does stock , is excellent , even their basic blasters ( there may be some exceptions like the hong lian honey badger but that one aint that bad )
I hope until next year , the sanctions will wipe and vanish and akgelblaster establishes a warehouse in my country , that way all local sellers should close their shops ! lol
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Nope… AKA PPK20. $549 AUD a piece. $899 for a CNC gearbox ETU and brushless motor.
Definitely not entry level stuff!
Are they full metal units (handguard, receiver etc)?
Any idea what the AK12 would cost when you get your mits on them? 
metal receiver, nylon handguard?
AK12 is same cost as PK20.
Might also be a Groza! 
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No idea cunty cuz there’s no brand mentioned on the Amazon link I posted.
Was just asking the question, after all
If you don’t ask, you don’t know
Also the handi tec-9 isn’t a great performer either, yet akgelblaster stocks them so not sure how accurate your statement is, seems a bit more like you just have your tongue in their cheeks
No offence rok or ak lol
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A Groza would be a hot ticket item. I recall it being asked for many times. Someone custom made one can’t remember exactly.
@Maiphut seen a few 3d printed “kit” Groza’s over the years. Be good to have a purpose built one, definitely empties my wallet lol
@shadow187 no offense taken mate… being offended isn’t something I am capable of!
The Handi Tec-9 is in the category of no other version exists so that is the option you have.
We actually scrapped them from the first shipment due to quality concerns.
At the time they were very new, and no testing was able to be done before shipping so we made the decision to leave them out. They are not available on the international store either.
Another note for the store…
LDT spring P-mags in black have arrived!
Also LDT MP5 drum spring mags… which are a very cool design, will be testing today 
More parts are coming… and after that…
And looking at motors as well.
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You best not be getting my hopes up 
Gro- za hopes…
Dash - za hopes…!!
Lets hope that doesn’t happen…!!
All good, I got mine specifically for that reason that there was no other version available. The gold one and the tactical version so I’m set.
It was a nostalgic thing for me as I had a toy one as a kid
But that’s ok, tactical edge took the gamble, theyve also thrown another $50 on top of what me and beemer paid for their pricing, must be to cover a replacement if they need to do warranty for a customer 
Bummer.
Anyone who knows me knows how much I luuurve hotrodding the underdogs.
If only I could get a PP19 Bizon… 
but that particular horse has bolted and the gate’s well and truly shut. 
Surely beemer could suck up to vas and get an old display model for you?
I’ve seen a 3D print for the j12 to make a bizon… my printing skills aren’t quite honed for big projects yet
There’s definitely one that sacrifices a normal mag for the feed wheel but I don’t think it included the matching handguard for it to work.
After seeing those new LDT spring mags with the worm gear got me thinking that would work for a helical mag like the Bizons.
I know they were shiteful performers but that mag arrangement’s pretty unique. They’re also now pretty rare and hard to find. I may get lucky and find one stashed at the back of someone’s garage one day.
I look at them as a kind of failed part of gel blaster history from a time when appearance and diversity of design was a higher priority than pure FPS.
As such… definitely something I’d want for my collection.
At the time the main thing that stopped me getting one was they are 75-80% of the size they should be…
This is the project I would love to have a go at one day.
That’s cheating lol
Also pretty cool tho, turn an AK into a bizon