Classic Army M16A2 feeding issue

Greetings party people :tada: :confetti_ball::balloon:

My brother has a classic army M16a2 he bought from tactical edge in emerald a while back and it never worked, gels failed to feed. They have since closed down the store or it was only a pop up store or something and my brother left it too long to take it back to the store as he was out there for work and lives 4-5 hours away

He brought it down at Xmas time and I had a look at it, tried several different gels of different hardness’s and it just wouldn’t feed any

When looking up the mag well from underneath and pulling the trigger a few times to watch where the nozzle was going, it didn’t look like the nozzle was pulling back far enough to allow the gels to feed, (part of the nozzle keeps blocking the gels from feeding I assume)

A mate from work who used to work for M4A1 said that it was a common issue and there was a universal t-piece that fixed the issue

He can’t remember which one as he hasn’t worked at m4a1 for a few years and after looking through the m4a1 website I can’t see one that says universal t-piece

Does anyone have experience with these or this issue and if so can anyone provide some assistance or recommend a fix?

Cheers

They are almost a wells, but not. Their gearbox is pretty similar but is a bit different, but they do share some parts like nozzle, cylinder head, cylinder.
If you have it open, does the sector gear have a “delay” chip?
I use quotes as it is as much a sector delay as it is a tappet travel extender of sorts.


Ausgel, $1.50.
They do increase the distance the tappet travels slightly, might not have one installed from the factory. The nozzle will move but not quite enough without it.

That said, if changing to SHS gears you do not need the chip in my experience with wells, but classic army are slightly different despite being very similar.

Would also be worth checking the mag feeds gels, and the power is getting to the mag terminals, and the polarity of the mag terminals is the right way (yes I have seen factory blasters wired mag terminals backwards!)

Thanks for replying

I haven’t opened it up and he took it with him back up north.

The mag was definitely feeding the gels up but it was just squishing them in the mag well and not a single gel was making it up into the chamber

The gearbox doesn’t sound anything like any of my blasters, there’s quite a distinctly different sound when attempting to fire it so something in the gearbox being busted or out of alignment is also a possibility although I wouldn’t expect a brand new blaster (at the time) to have been sold without test firing at the factory at least, but we all know how that theory works as not every single blaster is tested before sale at the local store selling them

At this stage I don’t think he has any intention of upgrading it, he just wants it working although if the gearbox is buggered and needs new internals then upgrading would be the best option I would imagine.

I should have got him to leave it with me but he was supposed to have been taking it to one of the local shops before he went back up north but he didn’t get around to it

I was just trying to find out if anyone had the same blaster and experienced the same issue and was able to rectify it with another t-piece. But as I said it seemed the nozzle was sitting too far forward and wasn’t allowing the gels to feed into the chamber to be fired

Also, dammit, I just put in an order from ausgel for a cheap metal inner barrel for my ZH m249 :sweat_smile::face_with_symbols_over_mouth::face_with_symbols_over_mouth::face_with_symbols_over_mouth:

I think that sector delay chip will likely do the trick though after reading some posts about them on reddit

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Tested at the factory is something you’d think would happen… I guarantee it doesn’t for every blaster.
Had to fix plenty over the years that were brand new and not working.

It could even be a broken or munted tappet plate.
Hard to say without seeing and hearing it.

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I watched the video for it on tac edge YouTube and my brother’s didn’t sound like the one in their video…

I’ll try and remember to grab one of those sector delay chips next time I order from ausgel and wait til he comes down next and get him to bring it down again but that could be a while so it’s a stalemate until then unfortunately

But thanks for your insight and ideas, much appreciated :call_me_hand:t2:

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Ooo looky what I found…

apparently specific to classic army