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This is legal

But this isn’t

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The big argument I always heard, was that Gel Blasters were too realistic. While this ‘Toy’ is not that close to the trained eye, most Joe Public couldn’t tell the difference between the Toy and the Gel Blaster

Our laws like the dipshits who make them, are fcuked.

100% true story…

I had a mate down in Vic who took his family to a local fair about seven years ago.

He had a crack at the clown heads you shove balls into and won… he chose a toy gun pretty much like the one above and about the same size. So he didn’t have to carry it around all afternoon he took it out to his car and threw it on the back seat.

When he took his family out to the carpark to go home a little later he found two marked police cars parked front and back, boxing him in. He asked one of the rozzers what was going on, and they took him aside and asked why he had an assault rifle on the back seat of his car. :roll_eyes:

They backed off when he showed them the toy and told them how he’d won it at the fair, but was told quite strongly that he should have put it in the boot where it couldn’t be seen by anyone walking past. They didn’t like his comment about having to be the world’s smallest psychpath to scare anybody with something that small. :laughing:

Any wonder we’ve had gel retailers forced to vacate Westfield shops and paint out their windows, etc. with public reactions like that. :expressionless:

Let’s not forget about cap guns that are still a thing and purchasable in any cheap shop, not to mention there’s metal ones too.

Meanwhile, I am filing paperwork with “weapons licensing” to import a toy. :man_facepalming:

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Unfortunately I have a new phone that doesn’t contain the pictures that I took in a toy store here in Fremantle, Western Australia.

The array of fully automatic rifles and replica shotguns was astounding, only kids toys on the shelves, but fully legal to purchase despite the bans on Gelblasters :face_with_symbols_over_mouth:

Would any of them fit a gen 8 ??

I, for one, am very happy that there are high quality, metal, kids toys available…

The more realistic the better…!!

But your right…its stupid we can have these, but gel blasters are banned in some states…

Does Vic / Nsw have restrictions on sales of these toys, based on appearance…??

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From the VicPol website

We talked about this the other day, BME. :thinking:

Think it answers my question about gutted gel blastere being legal in Victoria. :roll_eyes:

No wonder I buggered off from the nanny state.

Yeah, I found that too, after I did a search…

Have to look at SA, but probs the same…

We’re lucky here , in QLD…

Still, you could do gutted blaster replicas, for WA…

No…

Either way, not a viable enterprise at all. :man_shrugging:

There’s no appearance laws or regulations around replica firearms here, so that’s one “freedom” that we have regarding Gelblasters.

The bans centrred around putting them the same category as an Air Rifle, as they classed them as being able to fire a projectile… but ruled out being able to register them as such “because they are unable to have serial numbers applied to them” :roll_eyes:

Seems that idiot Papsmear and his clowns couldn’t even look across their own border and consider the SA method for regulations :rage:

So a non functional Gelbaster is not illegal as a replica firearm, but a functional equivalent is illegal under the new laws, along with the banning of possessing Gels!

Making the Gels themselves illegal was the biggest joke of the whole circus, considering that Orbeez/Garden type gels are still legal and sold in toy and hardware stores :roll_eyes:

By definition of the new laws, NERF and many other products would also be considered illegal as coming under the same definition of being able to fire a projectile, but nobody seemed to look into that at the time of banning Gelbasters.

By removing the gearbox internals/wiring a Gelbaster is then a non functional replica weapon, very difficult to get any judge to waste their time in a court of law over trying to prove otherwise.

I went further to remove the inner barrels, to go that one step further as being completely non functional in any sense whatsoever if someone was to try and argue the point, as they are another “functional” part that has no place in something considered as a replica firearm for display purposes only :+1:

Same here, they are only concerned about the gearbox, you can have all the rest and do whatever you want with it. Besides illegal things like robbing stores etc.

No appearance laws here, unlike the eastern states all have appearance laws.

Sounds like the issue is they don’t want people going around robbing banks with something that looks like a real firearm, is that correct?

Yeah, but commonsense…

Who in Oz robs a bank with a Sig 552, Colt M4 or H&K MP5? If the perp could afford one of those he wouldn’t need to rob a bank. :laughing:

Been saying for years, if someone pointed one of those at me, I’d probably die laughing.

A shotgun gel blasters, gas revolver or Glock? More believable.

Attempted carjacking, at Newport today…with a ‘gun’…

Pistol?
Probs a gelblaster.

I’d burst out laughing…” you trying to rob me, with an electric pistol??”
:rofl::rofl::rofl:

That’s the problem, there is no commonsense.

I’d die laughing if someone pointed a Glock as they’d have to be Bikie gang affiliated and cost 20 grand. Registered gun owners don’t do that stuff 99% of the time.

Like that media report of the Daniel Defence M4 that diver found off Sydney. Asif was a real one.

Revolver I’d be looking at the cylinder see what’s inside. 158gn Jacketed hollowpoint yea I’d shit bricks. :laughing: Easy to see front on.

Shotgun, don’t think any of the blasters look similar to a real one so should be easy to pick.

But not everyone takes notice of details and that’s the problem, or distance can be hard to differentiate. Not many gun crimes, there are some but it’s usually some bubba thing that’s never been registered. Not some flash looking Glock or M4.

Only if Robert DeNiro, Tom Sizemore and Val Kilmer visited :laughing:

What are they going to steal - electrons. Have to work hard to find a bank that provides cash services

“Welcome to ANZ.
Your robbery it’s important to us, and you have been placed in a queue.
Please wait until a teller is able to serve you.

You are currently number……6…… in queue.

As you wait, please enjoy our welcome to country music…”

Anything that can be reasonably mistaken as a firearm based on silhouette by the general public is considered as an illegal firearm by Vicpol. A lot of the nerf groups that I was in before I ditched the hobby would have to tread really carefully about painting there blasters and using certain nerf pistols as they where considered realistic based on there shadow not there actual colours and physical appearance. There bad laws but there isn’t really anything you could do about it because the governments approach to most things that require education, tolerance and reasonable regulations are banned and forgotten about. It’s pretty clear in all states in Australia that politicians would rather have pissing contests about the next big government build that isn’t completed for another couple of decades rather then address issues that effect us currently and maintenance of current government services and infrastructure.
Small rant but government has been dicking Australians for a while now so might aswell discuss it.

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And, as always, the crims just ignore the law.

With some sellers , selling interstate, as well as private posting from QLD, im sure there would be big numbers of illegal gel blasters interstate.
Easy enough to do…just the massive penalty if you get caught.

But toy laws are even more ridiculous, varying state to state…
Getting weapons charges, from a cap gun is simply ridiculous… i wonder how many other countries, that would happen in.

And, as always, the default argument of knife crime being the real problem, still stands…

Which is really asking, what has gone wrong in the minds of the people who do it, where they have no sense of morality, saying to them that this is wrong…

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