M16 CYMA vs Double Bell

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3 prong flash hider, is boss…!!

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And, for those interested, double bell m16 at tac edge, for $439…

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Thanks everyone for the advice! Picked up this CYMA today for $455 at Armoured Heaven. Can’t wait to see how she looks with the 20 round short Mags :heart_eyes:



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Should come back in stock quickly ihobby usually have em in stock all the time. Ihobby is usually a no no business to buy from but if they manage to F up mags I’d be surprised

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Just a tip…
throw a bit of oil / silicone spray on the 3 prong flash hider…
it does tend to rust , after awhile…

Enjoy…!!

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Same with the metal mags…… they are awesome aesthetically, but were always a constant battle to keep them from rusting internally :confused:

I used to drill 3/16” drain holes into the bottom of all my mags, metal and nylons,
It drains off any excess water every time they were refilled from the speed loader, which helped to get rid of any excess moisture.

Metal and Nylon mags also would receive a good dose of CRC on the mag motors and contacts/wiring after each use regularly.

Nylons not so much, but metal mags take a lot of maintenance and upkeep to protect your investment and condition/performance.
Always pop open the gel feed doors and leave them upside down to help drain/dry feed motors and internals.

Once again, all of my pics are locked away on my old phone…… but here’s a pic that I do have of the short 20 round metal mags on my old Bushmaster ACR DMR tribute :ok_hand:

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Good to know! Cheers :+1:

Haven’t been in stock since ~August. I went to buy some before In Country and ended up buying the non-compatible Double Bells. Worked out though, the internals fit in the LDT 20rd bodies and are better quality so I swapped all of mine.

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just watched Bradley Phillips review on the CYMA. now i want one. stupid YouTube gives me notifications for the channels i want to hear from weeks later.

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Same here. Subbed, notifications on, haven’t had a notification for ages. Vid’s been up for a month :roll_eyes:

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a question that intrigues me… is it entirely metallic? stock included?

Nah… receiver is metal.
Stock, and foregrip are plastic.

Quite tight though, no creaking etc…

It’s nylon where the real thing is polymer and metal where the real thing is metal.

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I can vouch for the CYMA M16A1… I’ve had two, one left original, the other converted into an XM177 ( before Taidi offered them for sale ).

Solid blasters and apart from the Stanag magazine, fairly true to the original. Easy to get a hold of a short 20 rounder for display purposes though :+1:

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Hey guys! Sorry for the unrelated post however im new here and it would allow me to start a new thread.

I after some help with a double bell m4ss (metal), Apparently there is no aftermarket nozzle with an oring for better sealing, I have tried the apache head/nozzle but its a confetti cannon.

Had anyone been able to find a nozzle that will fit this blaster?

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I did… it’s a bit of a pain… and is two nozzles into one.

Ldt nozzle, with a jin Ming tip with a little trimmed off the back of the rubber tip to get the correct length.

You will also need something to fill the space between the nozzle and tip and there is a fair diameter difference. I used heatshrink.

You’d think there would be an aftermarket nozzle for these things by now, they are common, and their nozzles are commonly shit sealing.

Thanks mate ill look into it, I know its strange that it hasn’t been made yet, spoken to a few techs and they have all said there is nothing

Did it perform any better after?

It did, since the stock one was quite leaky having a seal did improve the fps consistency a lot.
I did it on my Double Bell PDW 808.
I did just two weeks ago convert it to an LDX gearbox, which is a great option for Double Bells.

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With the Apache did you get the extended nozzle? The standard is too short for most DBs from what I’ve read.

And apaches need ultra hard gels… they smash anything softer. And not many tpieces suit them well and cause smash gels too.

Of course their tpiece works great with an apache but expensive, and doesn’t fit and or work with every gearbox and blaster combination without modifying.

I don’t rate them, tend to be more hassle than they are worth, but they do have their “use case scenarios”.

Example… my aps AK doing 35rps with a tappet plate will either feed OR seal in full auto… simply can’t do both and spare tappet plates are almost non existent… so it is getting an apache.

Or my slong gearbox, they don’t have the tappet travel for full size gels, again feed or seal not both… so apache is perfect for the solve.

Also an easy option for DSG builds, but can build DSG close to 50rps without them with the right gearbox, parts, and setup.

Generally a tappet plate works better for most builds and isn’t as picky with gels.

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