The Ghost of Xmas past...(OR... The SPECTRE of ABF...)

Ok, all the piecesof the puzzle have fallen into place, and all is revealed…

Bit of a story, but here goes…

1: Obtained B709, for importing a M4 Spectre, from triggertoys.

2: Placed order, got tracking number.

3: Parcel “A” arrived. It was an empty box.
There was masking tape on it, but enough of a gap down the side, to get the contents out.

Initially, i thought i was scammed.

However, closer inspection revealed it had a weight ex HK, of 1.3 kgs.
That would have been at time of posting. So, i started to think someone along the postal route, had sticky fingers…

4: I emailed triggertoys and told him. I have photo’s , and a video of opening.
He agreed to send out another one, as per his policy. He wasn’t happy either, but honoured his word ( Full Points for that!!). Package “B” sent.

5: B709 was still valid. Package arrived at SYD, and withheld. Letter sent to me. I lodged my appeal, stating I had a valid B709 ( they should have known this), lived in QLD where its all legal, have a B709 history of importing gel blasters / sci-fi replicas etc, and was a responsible (-ish!! ) person.

6: Package “B” finally arrived today, with stickers saying it had been opened by ABF. Blaster, mag and battery included.

Whew…!!

Thanks for @TriggerToy.com for sending the replacement, i was unsure initially about what had happened, but now i have no doubt someone in the postal system, somewhere, liked what they saw, and helped themselves.

Also, the appeals was successful, as it should be for a QLDlander, and package sent with no further problems. No further letters, your parcel just turns up.

Useful info, for anyone in a similar situation in the future.
Though, we need to get imports allowed from china again, for that to happen…

Hope thats of interest, for anyone concerned…!!

Anyway, the blaster itself…

Worth the effort.

Its short, sturdy, compact and cool…

Bonus points for including a 7.4v battery…its just a bit too long…

Its a very sturdy and solid blaster, no creak or movement.
No mag prime, it does have blowback ( to be disabled), and a semi / auto lever on the LHS. Mine only has one rail, on the RHS, but thats ok.

Magazine capacity is similar to mp5k, so dont expect it to last too long.
7.4v has it running around 700 r/min…standard 7.4v fare.
It is meant to have metal gearbox, metal gears, and a metal barrel.

Like the LDT mp5k, I’m only getting 160-180 fps out of it standard.

Curse of the short barrel.
It will get the spring / oring treatment, in due course…hopefully around 220 fps.

@TriggerToy.com , do you have any spare magazines available…?
There should be no problem getting them into Australia…

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I think you can see the possibilities my mind was mulling over, with this…

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Ah, I see, Q… a Spectre, no less. :wink:

Almost as good as getting your hands on a Lector decoder. :laughing:

Good to see you finally got one in. :+1:

Cool that is a one of a kind in Aus for sure. I was wondering how that is progressing. Good outcome eventually. It looks really awesome as it is. Love that unique lil smg.

It really stinks some dirt bag stole part of it. Unfortunately it happens and now likely an illegal part out there somewhere. Believe it or not I have had worse happen before. Some live ammunition went missing during transit from point A to point B in the past via courier. Don’t know where it went just vanished. It was reported and all channels followed as it’s quite serious.

I had a certain overseas company send me a pre release V4 P90 to review as I had quite the history of suppliers sending me stuff to review before they were released into the market.

This P90 arrived to me here in WA without ANY issues whatsoever from the ABF, and I’ve NEVER had a B709 in my entire life!:astonished:

Sure that it was dissasembled in the box, but to have the ABF open the package, inspect it, and then go to all the trouble to let me know that they had inspected the imported parcel, found nothing of concern, and then happily sent it on its way to Western Australia was absolutely mind blowing!

I obviously got rid of the barrel straight away and don’t have any gels to even operate it, and unfortunately don’t even know where all the rest of the parts are to assemble it as a Cool wall hanger :worried:

I received quite a few brand new pre production Gelbasters from overseas companies after the WA bans, only because they were just sent them to me by overseas companies unaware of the changes of the Laws here in WA.

Freaked me out every single time, because I never actually ordered/purchased anything, they just simply appeared on my doorstep unannounced, then shat myself that I had to get rid of those products ASAP😲

Just a bit of an update on the spectre, re performance.

Not a lot to say…its not a great performer OOTB.

160-170 fps ish…using a few different gel types.

Much like the LDT mp5k, which did similar performance OOTB, the weakness is the short barrel.

Had a look at pulling it apart, and decided it was not really worth it.
Its a bit of a weird shell mechanism, and the safety is only weak and half working.

Given that the LDT was pulled apart, given new spring and O-ring, which greatly increased airseal…it all amounted to no real difference fps wise.

The blowback is loud in this, but it can be reduced (and reciprocating weight removed), by removing the heavy metal charging handle.
The "clean " look , improves aesthetics in my book.

Size wise, its a bit bigger than the mp5-k, and a bit heavier.
Very sturdy nylon, with no movement.

All in all, a quirky little number, thats just not going to be a big performer…

But, good enough for something different…

interestingly enough, the blowback can be “disabled”, by Holding the charging handle all the way back, and firing. It then does not cycle.

If the charging handle is forward, it will want to keep cycling…

Hmmm…

Yeah, you’ve just pulled the blowback unit far enough back to lose engagement with the piston. So it’s actuated by the piston with a simple spring return.

I agree, the cleaner look without the titanic-weight charging handle is much better… cycling feels less violent too. :+1:

FWIW and IMHO the MP5K is definitely a sexier looking PDW. Wow… four achronyms in one sentence. :joy:

IDK WTF acronyms do TBH…BRB phone rang FML…

Do I win now.??
:rofl::rofl:

ICYMI, I was AFK just then so missed your last post, but IIRC mine had four… yours has 5, so IMO and FWIW, ITT you win and NGL, I’m SMH in amazement… but GTG, so adios!

In other words… DILLIGAF? :rofl::rofl:

I’m out
Nuff said
:rofl::rofl::rofl:

TIL you are the GOAT of gel blaster Unicorns BAE and IDGAF about performance HIFW it’s like that and you follow Pics or it didn’t happen acronym to the T :+1:

:rofl:

Hmmmm… not sure if you’ve seen this yet, but the Spectre Vas put through the chrono on this review is hitting around 230FPS. :thinking:

I don’t know why yours would be hitting so low. :person_shrugging:

Dunno.
Always was lower fps…

Medinchina tolerances.?
Crap oring, from the get go.? Weak spring.?

It needs a pull apart to investigate…
I’m sure the standard stage 1 fixes, would yield better results…

Only 4 left at xforce…must be popular…!

Well, what can i say…??

Another day, another 340 fps Roksolid build…!!

Honestly, this is getting too predictable now…!!
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

All jokes aside, got this back yesterday, from Rok.

Huge thanks, i know it took a lot of time and effort, for such a small little blaster…

i can understand you’re in no hurry to repeat the experience …!!

The 340 fps was a freak short burst…but captured on camera.

It mostly sit on 280- ish fps… which is a great result for a small unit.

Its running on a 11v battery, which has no double feeding issues on semi, and is a snappy trigger response.

The blowback has been disabled, … and ROK, the mag prime still does work.!

It is a bit loud, but thats to be expected from running a M100, to try to get the fps up from a short barrel.


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Comparo time, with the MPX rattler… similar style builds…

Very similar size and form factor.
Here’s a photo, one on top of the other…

very similar size… different performance route.

The MPX has the easiest path to better gains…

Just add a slightly longer barrel, a custom “M98 spring”… and you’ve got 310 fps.
The only annoying thing, is the spring TWANG…after firing…spring resonance.

You can stop it by having the spring under a bit of tension, by pulling the charging lever out a cm or so…

Any ideas how to fix it.?
Maybe some hot glue, where the spring is attached.?

Anyway, couple of easy tweaks and you have 310 fps from a shorty.
The MPX will double feed on semi on 11v, so running it on 7v fixes that problem.
It also has a slower ROF,. which makes the smaller mag last longer.

It benefits from a 7v batt.

The SPECTRE…

Lotsa mods and ROK swearing to optimise, and get it back together.
Even then, its still a bit louder than the MPX, for less slightly performance.
I doubt it would be possible to wring another drop of performance out of it.

The Spectre also benefits from a 11v battery.
No double feeding on semi, and it runs a whole lot better on semi on 11v.
Downside is , it empties your mag quicker.

Speaking of mags…
MPX mags are available locally…Spectre mags…Nope…
Just check the MPX mags aren’t backward wired, before leaving ihobby.
I do like the spectre… it fits into the " different and unusual" build…
And i appreciate ROKS efforts to get it singing.

However…
If you want a compact , cheaper nylon jobby ( MPX about $80 cheaper), with mags available…and a removable stock…and higher perfomance

check out the MPX.

Hmmm … Look at those blacks…
1 Shiny, 1 Matte…!!

50 shades of repaint…!!
Which one.?.?
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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Vas’s Spectres ran 220-230 OOTB

Mine was doing 160 when i first got it.

Good to finally get it running properly…!!