The Shit Pit

Like anything advertised online from China, this crap looks cool in videos and anyone who is uneducated about Boilermaking or Engineering, these products look like the bees knees… but in reality, they are “furniture grade” welds at best :roll_eyes:

Yea not the heavy fab and repair I’m used to, but might be good for the thin shit.

Mind you I can mig weld 1mm sheet steel together no problems. Takes a bit of practice though compared to thicker material you don’t have to be so fussy with your amps and feed rate and that thing attached to your wrist :joy: Bit of rust, turn it up brother and burn that shit :laughing:

Hey @DocBob this is right up your alley :rofl:

About 2 minutes in, see he put the emission standards exhaust on bwahahaha meanwhile welding galv with no respirator. You die young anyway. Haha thongs for fuckin shoes, oh yea full lambo standards.

https://www.msn.com/en-au/video/webcontent/man-builds-amazing-lamborghini-from-start-to-finish-by-haisupercar/vi-AA1xRpDe?vid=-EV5a6iwH5w&provider=yt&ocid=socialshare

Made me laugh far out :laughing: Got to love the ISO9001 standard we adhered to making car stuff. At least it’s on the sticker :rofl:

Carbon fibre… err it’s called fiber glass. Haha this is hilarious. :rofl:

No gloves, “eyelid” Shade Welding goggles, no respirator, mild steel Chinesium nuts and bolts with no washers, splits or Locknuts…all done on a wing and a prayer!

Believe it or not, I was able to use my 120 Cigweld Mig to weld a few Baby Formula tins together to use as Exhaust Covers on the old Gemini skid pig using 0.6 wire and the Spot Weld function :grin:

Probably stronger than anything on that Canborghini in the video :joy:

Oh dear, chineseium V8’s missing a litre or two with a pair of Kambrook hair dryers. What could go wrong :thinking: :laughing: @DocBob

NEW V8 REVEALED: Chinese brand offers something Patrol, LandCruiser can’t

Mercedes Benz knock-off

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ha of course it’d have to be wouldn’t it :laughing:

Your right it looks very similar…

Mercedes-AMG 4.0-litre twin-turbo V8 engine detailed in full

PLENTY to go wrong for sure, just like all modern Engines!

Insane amounts of “technology” fitted to them that each single component is a FAILURE point. :hushed:

Old engine’s were overengineerd and then restricted to give the average buyer the best moderate power levels, good fuel economy, reliability and easily serviced/repaired.

This is why we could swap heads/cams/carbs/exhaust etc and double or even triple the factory power outputs before getting anywhere near their engineered stress levels. :ok_hand:

Modern engines are under-engineered to get the lightest possible size/weight, out of very flimsy and non-durable materials, from the smallest capacity displacement as possible…then are overengineerd with hundreds of Bolt On computer controlled components to then try and achieve the highest performance/emissions/economy that they can wring out of them. :hushed:

Every time you turn the key on a new engine, its operating at close to 100% of its capacity and under very fragile levels of safety margins to keep it all together.

Old engines only ran at around 50% of their designed performance, under stressed, easily and with a huge margin of safety built into their design… hence being able to belt the shit out of them for years under harsh conditions and high load stresses without any issues.

New Engines are simply fragile as hell, overstressed, overcomplicated and rely heavily upon way too many devices to keep them operating safely and reliably.

That’s why an LS is better than most quad cam euros. LS is simple, light and compact

Euro multiple cams add weight and generally make power at the top end of the rev range, great for racing, not so good on the street. Costs of maintaining euro multi cam engines are astronomical. Japanese multi-cam engines are generally used for emissions controls and efficiency.

… and then there are the control software issues

More cams, more valves, more timing chains, more Turbo’s, more components to plumb and run everything…the list of bits to go wrong just multiplies exponentially! :hushed:

turbine engines are easy…

A fan, turning a fan…

Throw on a gearbox, and your right…

They have gas turbine engines, pumping gas pipelines,up around up north in the northern hemisphere …that have been running for years…

Oil changes on the fly…they don’t shut them down…

Classic example of less is more! :ok_hand:

What do you think powers 40% of SA when the wind doesn’t blow or the sun don’t shine. The Heywood interconnector is a farse, we get some when both wind and sun are out and the gas turbines can’t keep up which is not very often, mostly we are exporting excess power to feed the convict state. :rofl:

You know that interconnector we finished our side 2 years ahead of Vic getting anywhere near finishing their side. :roll_eyes: :laughing:

In my world it’s just more shit that wears out costing a fortune to replace. Aint no replacement for displacement.

I’ve been driving Commodore V6 3.8’s since 1993. 6-7ltrs per hundred k’s all day everyday when they are serviced. Put the foot down you’ll creep to 10L/100k.

Modern cars with turbo small displacement multi valve multi cam engines can’t even achieve an average of 10L/100klms. They just weigh too heavy for a small 2.5 ish litre turbo 4 cylinder engine trying to push a vehicle that weighs 2-3 tons! With all the added weight of miles of copper because the kids in the back need a friggin TV.

The old Hilux 4Y petrol from 1986 wasn’t much of a champ on fuel with the 2.2Ltr petrol forklift 2 valve sohc motor, carbureted. But it went ok and averaged 20Mpg which for such a small motor that was able to lay a skid was quiet respectable. Learnt to drive in that one and it had great grunt right off idle for 4WD. Dad tried the NA 2.4ltr diesel version and that instantly changed his mind as that wouldn’t even go up Blacktop hill road, it stalled in first gear.

Was funny I had to check my sections Toyota forkilfts at work about 10 years later, first time I did it flip the seat hood, fk me dead, 4Y Hilux motor :rofl: :rofl: :+1: :+1:

Yep. We use 3.8 V6 motors in early Holdens (FE to HR). They fit and are bullet proof (providing you remember about the camshaft oiling issue on VS ecotecs). Problem is they are getting rare and desirable supercharged engine is expensive

Early Toyota CH-R (pre hybrid) was a classic example. Small 1.3l engine and turbo. Had to rev the ring out of it to get any decent performance and fuel economy went out the window. Now it only comes with 1.8 or 2.4l hybrid.

Modern cars are pain so much better for the environment if people would buy 90’s and early 2000’s Toyotas and drove them instead of cars destined for land fill within 5 years. My car didn’t start the other day so popped the bonnet gave the engine block a sensual massage and bam started first turn. 90’s cars are far more reliable then modern ones if you give em a bit of lovin modern cars are just replace as much shit as you can until you give up and get a new car

I’ve never heard of this oiling issue. I have that exact one 1999 series 3 VS Ute 3.8 Ecotec VT motor, running 520,000klm at the moment and seems ok unless something was done prior but really don’t know as it’s stock as a rock :man_shrugging: It just goes, with decent maintenance. Like the clappers with 5 speed. Had it over 10 years now, only replaced some electrical bits as they age out. Great car love it. Body is near mint.

Is there any tell tale signs with the issue you mention?

I have 2x series 2 3.8 V6’s sitting around :+1:

See what you mean by price they want $1200 for a basic one now. I bought motor trans for $200 with 200,000klm awhile back as spare. Comes in handy. Even my uncle wanted the torque convertor for his HK Kingswood 308 build he did. Apparently they are sought after now too for the builds and command hundreds of dollars. Lucky it was his birthday.

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You look at the big push at the recent auto shows of Chinese made EV’s. Made from tuna tins, how long you think they will last :laughing: Where would you even start with one of those things. They look horrid too with big square shapes trying to mimick yank tanks… oh they even call one a tank :roll_eyes:

Last about 5 hours in my day to day. Piles of shit. Can’t even go up inclines my Grandma would have zoomed up in her gopher.

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The first VS had an oiling issue. Holden fixed by changing the dipstick to the lift the oil levels. My VS Calais ran the camshaft bearings about a month after warranty expired.

Had no end of trouble getting it fixed even though it was a known problem. Holden wouldn’t do a proper rebuild. That was on a Holden executive car, and leased on GMAC. Used to get a new Holden every 2 years. Haven’t had one since 1997 when Calais lease expired.

Series 3 shouldn’t be a problem. Was caused by bean counters trying to reduce cost by lowering oil levels on 147kw engine

Ah right. Never heard that one, thanks for the info.

Reminds me when I bought my 12month old ex council VP V6 Ute in 93 with 60 thou on it from Claridge Holden. Yep it comes with Holden Q warranty for 3 years, I have to go back every 3 months for them to service it to keep the warranty up. Oook.

And here we go, take it in for it’s first 3 month service, gets delivered back to me running on 5 cylinders and it’s 5pm on wednesday and I need it to go to work by 6am in the morning. Fk fk what did you clowns do, had a quick look, ah new spark plugs AC Delco some shit, ripped on 5 cyl down to Rocca bros and grabbed a pack of NGK’s and stuffed them in and all fixed.
Rang next day and blew shit out of them, they said oh return the spark plugs and we will refund you… the $8 for them :roll_eyes:

Then few months later the air con spun the idler pully bearing, pretty common I was told. Cool ring up and be covered under Holden Q warranty I got so they can fix it. WRONG. No that’s fair wear and tear and it will cost you $1400 for us to fix that. I said fkn what!

I did a bit of research, didn’t have $1400, thought fk it borrow the puller from work, wizzed round to CBC bearings on my way home, yes the bearing was an $80 item and the guy behind the counter said it’s the same on fords they are failing around 100,ooo and this is the updated bearing, took his word for it and did it myself that night.

Couple months later got notified my Holden Q warranty service is due, I said you can fair shove your Q right up your arse I negate and forclose you aint doing this shit to me again I have fixed it myself due to your incompetence and you can go fk off. Good bye, but you have a con… no I fucking don’t do I need to come down there and tear it up and shove it up your arse?

Anyway it was happy sailing, great car, shit dealer. :+1: