2 Late !/ 2 Stocks/ 2 Mags/ 2 Good...i'll CYMA self out.! (New CYMA MP5 )

Hmmm…
So, i had a look at my $17 ausgel gearbox, for a microswitch.
Different type, different position, microswitch.

That one, does have 2 tabs protruding…1 wire on each soldered on…gap between them.

New MP5 switch seems to have 1 small metal bar protruding.
If i hook up both contacts to the bar, it runs magprime nonstop, bypassing the switch.

I used the hot solder iron tip, to drain the bar of excess solder, best exposing the bar.

I also tried, top receiver off, batt in, mag in place, and trying to find a point, connecting the wire to the switch, where it will operate normally.

No luck.

I’m running out of ideas / options.

Anyone know where i can get another CYMA mp5 microswitch.?
I’m hoping the earlier models were the same…

No too many spares around, nowadays…

The switch is probably okay, unless the terminal’s been pulled out of the switch as @RokSolid suggested. But it’s starting to sound like your loose wire connects internally inside the switch housing.

Is it possible you’ve unintentionally bridged the two connection points with a little too much solder? :person_shrugging:

Maybe try stripping the insulation off the loose wire and touching likely solder points while you’re triggering the mag prime. Testing that way’s better than soldering and desoldering all the time. Too much heat into a plastic switch is never good.

If that switch is proprietry ( doubtful, knowing the Chinese ) you’ll be struggling to find a replacement… because… gel blasters :roll_eyes:

If testing that way doesn’t work, you could just live without mag prime… it’s not that important. Just fill the mag feed tube when you fill the mag… :wink:

You don’t have a lot of luck with mag prime switches on these pieces of plastic, do ya? :thinking:

I’m beginning to think, the loose wire fed into the switch housing.
It was a tiny bit of solder…

Might have to open the switch up….yaay.

I’ll take it to xforce 2morrow…their blaster, they may have spares….if it’s the same as earlier models.

Also see if jaycar have anything…bit of a long shot.

Mag prime is handy, for clearing the mag of gels in the feed tube, when finished…

Or…. Sell it on eBay, as a modded model, for $479.00…!,

High performance model…!!

@AKgelblaster …would you have access to any switches, from the factory, I could buy from you.?

Maybe add it to the sten mechanisms…?

Good luck with X-Force for spare parts. Sorry, I know you love 'em but every inquiry I’ve ever made to them about spare parts draws a big donut.

Drop around with it if you like…

Not saying I can fix it, but you never know. :person_shrugging:

Funny thing is,ROK actually got a latch from xforce, for the PPSH.!

Talk about luck.!

The switch is likely a standard micro switch of some sort.
The normal M4 mag prime switch comes up as a “camera switch”.

Do an image search on Google or AliExpress and see what turns up, hopefully you at least find out what the switch is, then can order one.

Xforce to the rescue…maybe.!!

Rang the meadowbrook store.

No New spares, but they have a part that should fit.
Its being brought up, and should be north lakes late tonight.!

Hopefully, fingers crossed…replacement 2morrow…!!

They also said try Digikey , for online parts.

I got the part number off the switch… its a Z59 microswitch…

Needed loupes, and magnifying glass for that… 5x zoom!!

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That’s what I use. Is that a loop :rofl:

Oh look even at Jaycar

:rofl: :rofl: :v: :australia:

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Have to have a look, at jaycar…
It looks like one eye only, for magnification.

Surgitel make good loupes…

Custom made to fit your face / eyes.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.surgitel.com%2Fintroducing-wide-field-ultiview-lite-3-0x-as-new-standard-startup-loupes&psig=AOvVaw1W6CVkrSL6i4_TAOAy4DN_&ust=1758928786057000&source=images&cd=vfe&opi=89978449&ved=0CBYQjRxqFwoTCPiT99KG9Y8DFQAAAAAdAAAAABAE

Not cheap, though…

Looks like the one I use for both eyes. Cheap, has a AAA powered light and different magnification you can flip down the things to see the little fiddly bits better. Light is handy too.

Good enough for me as last I checked I’m not a brain surgeon…

:rofl: :rofl:

Ok, mag prime fixed…

For now, maybe…( switch works, possible retention issues)

Got the new micro switch from xforce, from their parts bin ( freebie, thanks Vas.!)

It is rectangular, but taller ( 3 prongs rear) its the black switch.

Genuine one, is rectangular, but longer lengthways.
It has a retention knob, and screwhole in the right place. (Blue switch)

I removed the old switch, exposed the single tab via solder-removal.
Soldered up the new switch ( thanks, loupes!!) and gave it a test run.

It worked properly…Yaay … however…

Different shape switch, no tabs or screwholes aligned.
My only solution was to use 5 min epoxy, for retention.

Mounted right next to the m100 spring…its gonna have a hard life.
I dont think it’ll stay on too long…

Any suggestions.??

A new genuine switch would be the answer…

it has a weird single tab at the rear, as shown…

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Ok…
Finally, figured it all out…

Opened up the switch, and all was revealed…

A bit hard to see, but basically…Upper protruding tab, snapped off…

Clearer drawing.

the 2 metal tabs, are brought into contact by the switch.
they run through the insulated block, emerge from the rear…

one angles up ( gone)
one angles down (remains)
Attach a wire to each.

Which, is why i couldn’t find anything to attach the wire to…nothing was there…
And why, with loupes, trying to expose more with the hot soldering tip…you would get teasing glimpses of just the thinnest amount of metal…

i reassembled, and applied a blob of solder at the rear…hoping it would connect with the tiny bit of metal showing…

probably a fools errand…

So, there the problem… wafer thin bit of protruding metal, lightly bumped, and snapped off…

Medinchina quality…

Lets hope the other switch’s glue holds…!!

So some things flew apart :rofl:

:rofl: :rofl:

Expanded zoom photo, courtesy of loupes…

You can do loupe de loupe’s…!!

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

Na thanks, went upside down miss jane several times this week getting skittled by sheep…

Straight back up, right you are gettin it now :rofl: :rofl:

Went pretty good overall, dog is farked as had to press him into service being an 11yo Kelpie he helped me out :+1:

Okay…epoxy set morning after test time…!!

Good news is…it all still works!

The new switch is a little further back, than the old one.
It J u s t connects with the cocking lever…and thats a good thing.

It means, the lever isn’t smacking the switch hard…less force on the switch.
Sometimes, you need to use a little rearwards pressure on the lever to make contact…thats ok.

So, its just about the epoxy holding the switch on, longterm.

It has 3 points of epoxy contact…side, top, and bottom… so hopefully should be long lasting.

I trimmed 1cm off the barrel, so its not protruding from the tri lug.
Lost a teeny bit of fps…

It was 300-310 before…
Now its around 290-300 fps.

Minimal loss, for improved aesthetics… and its still a solid performer…

All on supplied 7.4v nunchucks…

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Time for a mini comparo, between JM and Cyma.

My JM has had a oring upgrade, and maybe a slight spring upgrade…i cant remember…have to check earlier review…

@Friendly_Fire kindly did the Supp modification…the screw on Supp has a barrel extension, which adds to the barrel length.

Also, use of the supp really quietens the blaster down…very backyard friendly.

Without the Supp…it does about 180-190 fps.
With Supp around 230-240 fps.

ROF is insane, at around 1700 R/min …!!
Short, controlled bursts…!! :rofl: :rofl:

No Supp…

Supp on…

With Supp on, effective barrel length should be about the same…

Cyma pulls ahead at circa 300 fps.
JM might benefit from one longer, continuous barrel…

@Wombat … what did you do to your JM.?
I seem to remember a long barrel inside your Supp…
Which spring did you end up going with.?

If you were to choose…both are good ( when sorted)
I know @gti2022 had 2 cursed ones, but they should be able to be ressurected, i imagine…

The Cyma has better OOTB performance, readily available spares / gearboxes… and the 2 stocks / 2 mags if you go xforce.

I would think AKgelblasters Cyma would be cheaper, being the single unit.

JM is cheaper, more compact…but requires a bit of fine tuning to get sorted…

The choice is yours.!

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Running an M100 without any problems. Around 300 fps

mm they are usually double real rpms because it’s a toy.

good you got your switch sorted :+1: