Hey guy, Im just asking if any one has had any experience the the “new” metal Kriss vectors that ihobby, gbu and viper tac are selling, wondering if there any good? I can’t seem to find a brand name anywhere aswell
It’s not a bad looking gun and I’m willing to give it a try if no one else has tried it before, thanks heaps fellas 
Pretty sure they are an a&K. I have only seen one being used at a field and the guy was not very impressed with it, especially for the price.
They are incredibly inaccurate as a replica, largely as they are a V3 style gearbox stuck in a vector shape.
I’ve was told they are weirdly heavy, and they are not cheap. Most only do about 180-220fps, despite being listed as far more. Fire rate also apparently leaves a bit to be desired.
And they are not cheap. If you can build a blaster for similar money you could get a lehui, and a CNC gearbox built to your specs with all the goodies.
As for upgrades, shakka had trouble getting much from them, describing it as a bit of a nightmare.
He only got 22-24 rps and 270-280fps. Which I found hilarious as a few weeks prior he gave me shit for “only” getting 330fps and 25rps on the CNC box lehui version, which is an almost correct replica.
Also I kept it reliable with a respectful fire rate that the double drums can keep up with… And anyone who’s worked on a vector know you want them to last rather than have to work on them again soon.
I’m not having a dig at shakka, guy has some impressive builds, just got a bit cocky about something he hadn’t worked on hoping it was better than it was I guess.
pretty sure they were A&K, think it was iHobby had them labelled that when they were up for pre-order, otherwise AK has them listed as A&K but in tan. The airsoft A&K looks the same so think it’s safe to assume it’s just a converted model.
Pretty sad when a model a number of years older does pretty much everything better and for less, including fancy upgrade parts.
Seems like they wanted to do something cool but gave it the dev budget the likes of a springer.
heavier than the real steel,
that’s a bit odd
Yeah right, I would be trying to convince myself it works better aswell especially for that price 
Thanks heaps for the info lads!!
Nothing remotely accurate about that “full metal” KV. 
Which is something you could live with if the performance was there… sounds like it isn’t. 
I’m a big fan of the Vector platform but it looks like I’ll be rockin’ the LH KV with acrylic gearbox for a little while longer, by the sound of it. 
The standard gearbox is pretty capable, cab make them go pretty hard just have to work within a few limits.
The mosfet let’s them down but there is a t238 unit that gets rid of the problems and improves the functionality a bit. Or you can just go auto only with a cheap basic mosfet.
Lehui vectors are pretty good, especially if you don’t mind working on a blaster and pick one up for stuff all second hand since they were a good seller for a few years.
So fellas, my little brother actually had a LH KS lying around that was in good nick, which I bought off him for 100$, what a steel
Anyways what upgrades would you guys recommend to make them a decent gun?
Depends on how much effort you want to go to and expense.
Pretty easy to change the spring to an ausgel 1.18, or m90 if you are feeling a little me adventurous. And run an 11v, dont have to open the gearbox and it will be alright. Easy.
If you go in the gearbox, get an orange t-piece, ausgel purple 180mm barrel, green oring.
Just the above most people will be pretty happy with for very little effort and parts. Good value.
Oh and get a black-out kit before doing it, then you can re-assemble it in glorious black with no orange bits!
A little more involved you can get an oringed nozzle for them, nearly always best to remove the rubber tip and glue the one from the stock nozzle on, as the profile is very specific and most aftermarket nozzles don’t nail it. Sometimes requires spacing the nozzle tip with an o-ring to get proper length. Fiddly, but can be done.
Also worth using a thicker oring on the cylinder head, or putting some plumbers tape under the stock one to seal better. Nozzle and cylinder head seal are the final pieces to the seal puzzle, but a little involved.
If you want to do metal gears and a better motor, they are quite involved!
*The spur gear won’t fit, so need to recess the bushing a little to have the spur free spin.
*The motor while a 480, is a short, short 480. Either modifying to sit the pinion down more and cutting the shaft is needed, or there is a chi hai that is short enough and good, 31k neo magnet motor.
*And once you’ve done that, you need modify a metal v2 anti reverse latch to be slightly shorter than a normal v2, or it will smash into the pinion gear.
*Also need to bore out the holes the anti reversal latch fits in, as they won’t be quite open enough for it to move freely.
*…AND… need to glue/epoxy a few pieces of zip tie under the tappet plate so it doesnt tilt and come off the sector gear cam mid cycle.
*I also have a few little 3d printed pieces to epoxy around the ar latch posts so they don’t break and have some support.
*oh, and since you will need a metal rack piston, you need to either short stroke 3 teeth, or cut the piston similar to the stock one so it cycles.
Just do the seals, spring, and run 11v, they are pretty good, the mosfet may let you down at some point, try to run a good well charged battery and they last longer. If it dies, there is a good T238 replacement that is a solid upgrade worth changing to.
When people bring them to me, most just get the seals and springs done, as to do metal gears properly, is pretty expensive for parts but mostly my time. Usually takes a good 4 hours, and not all at once as glue needs time to cure, so it takes a couple of days.
Or go proper nuts, get the MK cnc box 
…there is a thread here somewhere of mine.
I would say do the seals barrel and spring, and buy and build the cnc box with t238 one the side while you have fun with it, change over when stock box dies or you are ready!
Thanks heaps man, good info, I think I’ll definitely look into that cnc gearbox, sound like a lot of work if I want to use the stock one, how much fps are you pushing out of your one?
Roksolid has a build thread here somewhere for that beauty. See if I can find it… standby…
I get a consistent 290FPS out of my LH Vector with just the basic airseal mods.
It just has a piston O ring upgrade, 1.18 unequal spring and an alloy o ring nozzle. Anything else is a royal pain in the arse as per RokSolid’s post.
One thing I don’t do is run 11.1v lipos in it… 7.4v only, for the sake of the FET and it’s hanging in there. Slightly higher FPS on the lower voltage too, although that’s not uncommon. I ran one direct wired Gen 8 style, no Fet to worry about so 11.1v all day long.
But I missed the sexy three round burst fire mode.
Currently running a T238 brushless 25k motor, 13:1 gears short stroked by 4 teeth, with an ASG M135(close to an actual M110 spring as ASG springs have wank ratings)
320fps, 26rps. And best of all, with the MK gearbox, I am confident it will last.
Only reason I didn’t make it have more rps, is the double drums don’t like feeding well much above that, and have 30+rps on a stick mag that holds 80 gels is pointless!
My original vector has all the things listed above done to a standard polycarb gearbox.
It has a 31k neo magnet chihai motor, m100, 16:1 short two teeth and has been shot more than any blaster in my collection - it is my wife’s favorite.
It runs 300fps 24rps. The current gearbox has lasted about two years. That poor chihai motor has been run for about 4 years and is just a freak, it will not die (watch me eat those words in the future!)
One thing about going with the MK box on a vector is, it makes the blaster a bit heavier, but it makes it super solid feeling and very stiff. nothing flexes once mounted to it. Feels very nice.
Yeah wow that’s awesome, I have the gear box on the way, I’m pretty keen for this build I can’t wait!!!
Another question, did you end up changing out the cylinder? If so what % port, or does that just depend on what barrel I’m going to use?
depends on the barrel you use, the stock cylinder is fine, and works well with the ausgel 180mm 7.3mm barrel, I think they are what you would buy as a 60% stainless cylinder.
If you are going for higher fps, an 75%-80% with the ausgel 270mm barrel would be wicked, I am thinking of getting a third vector and another MK box and doing that.
You will need a fair few parts from your gearbox, or buy a spare and pilfer from them. Can pick them up for $50 or less, tbh contact a local gel blaster shop and see if they have a dead one. Things like tappet plate, cylinder head, nozzle tip, anti reverse spring, mag terminals and all the switches are all things you will need.
Of course depends if you want to keep using yours while you build the mk box
All this Vector talk’s made me drag my old Le Hui out of storage… 
Damn… forgot how cool this platform is and how much I like it. Time for an o ring replacement and a bit of use, methinks.
I’d like to hear what other peeps are running in the lipo department for a Vector? Preferrably 7.4v and something quality like a NanoTech or Turnigy, keeping in mind this one’s running the 3D printed grip extension.
Also, anyone figured out a way to beef up the very weak mag release spring so it doesn’t shit a magazine every time you grip the front of the receiver? Hence the MOE foregrip.
I think I am looking for that higher fps, so I might invest in a another cylinder, how ever I’m trying to keep the vector quite short so I guess that’ll be another thing to figure out
Btw friendly fire I love the build man looks mint 
im thinking about getting a high mount red dot for this one and a bifrost unit to replicate muzzle flash, I can’t wait to finish the build, vectors are my favourite smg and have been for awhile, im so keen for this build, it’ll also be my first decent aeg, I’ve had trouble with aegs in the past but i have hopes for this one
Really appreciate the help guys, mean so much, I can’t wait till the past get here and I’ll keep you updated on the build!!!
Hey…
I found this interesting kit, for a vector….
Whaddaya think.?
The structure of the gearbox is more or less the same, can be taken as a reference:
@Friendly_Fire love a clean vector it looks awesome.
Currently both of mine have the fixed buffer tube adaptors to hold M4 size batteries. You can grind some material in top of the grip area, and use the extended cover and it will just squeeze in a M4 buffer tube size battery too.
My MK box vector build, last game used only 800mAh, firing somewhere between 1-2 bags of gels. (was around 4-5 litres of gels!)
25k brushless motor, 13:1 short 4 teeth and the asg m135 (actually closer to a real m110 spring). Next time I service it I might change it back to wired in the grip and standard folding stock.
Might convert one to the big handguard/suppressor combo with a longer barrel to make it a true “outdoors” build… actually could just front wire with that handguard… hmm…
I will have to get a photo of mine today.
