TEC-9 and a 3 day growth! (Or..Big Trouble, getting it in from China !)

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Metal barrel as well

@bme Would the metal barrel help increase the fps?

Hmmm…
I think the 14.3 cm metal barrel, is simply a replacement for the original plastic barrel.

As such, it would not really make any difference.

Lengthening the barrel further beyond that, may improve fps…but… the volume of the cylinder just isn’t that large.

The only way to find out is to try…get a longer barrel and install it. You’d then have a tip protruding. The new outer barrel would cover that…but they don’t sell them seperately.

I have a barrel extender from the mp5-k.
I’ll see if that fits tightly onto the tec-9, and if it makes any difference…

EDIT: i just re-read my previous posts from above…

i tried a metal barrel, about 3cm longer which i was able to get a pretty good air seal on.
It made no difference…

Tiny cylinder, i reckon…160 fps it is…

I might have to get another b709a and get the black tactical tec-9 and see about a longer barrel, but that still leaves the cylinder to upgrade, which if memory serves correct you said it was a proprietary cylinder didn’t you?

Do you think there would be a work around to beef up the cylinder somehow?

Get another cylinder and and customise it somehow to fit but still improve performance?

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Would there even be something suitable to replace the guts of the cylinder?

When your talking increasing performance, a key core concept ( for AEG) is matching the cylinder size to the barrel length.

i.e. take a ā€œstandardā€ V2 gearbox.
It has a full size cylinder, of a certain swept volume.

It is also of a certain physical size… it will physically fit into full size rifles, and can just fit into smaller SMG’s ( ie mp5-k).

Now, for that V2 cylinder, there is an optimal barrel length.
Too short, the gel does not get to spend enough time being accelerated in the barrel…lower fps results.

Too long…( think really , really long)… it accelerates to its max fps…but then the walls of the barrel actually start to slow it down…it gets subject to drag from the walls, having reached its maximum velocity.

Other gains can be had by ā€œimproving the systemā€ā€¦ ie stronger spring, sealing air leaks etc… but the core components are volume of cylinder, and barrel length.

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So, with the tec-9… its got its own , custom made to fit in the shell gearbox…with a small cylinder.

Small shell body = small cylinder.
It will be nearly impossible to shoehorn any other gearbox in, so were stuck with it.
Also, the blaster is very cheaply made , $10 US, so it has a weak plastic gearbox, plastic gears etc.

This means trying to upgrade the spring for higher performance would probably blow everything up, in a short period of time.

I did put on the barrel extender last night (pics up later).
That extended the plastic barrel by 3-4 cm, with a tight airseal.

Results varied… i did see some 180 and 190 fps…but also 130 and 140.
It was all over the place.

Barrel back to normal…back to consistent 155 fps…

You can upgrade the spring, that would give you higher fps…but would also break something fairly quickly, i imagine.

If we got em for $10…sure do it for shits and giggles, till it breaks…but i’m sure you dont wanna wreck yours.

So…it pretty much looks like ā€œit is what it isā€ā€¦ apart from trying to improve airseals, you cant really do a lot…

Limited by its small, custom fitting gearbox…
And, a shorter barrel, which terminates inside the shell…

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Might be worth looking at the piston seal in that gearbox. My guess is it’s a cup seal.

Just like o rings, if the seal’s held in a compressed state for a while it will take on a memory and have a less than great seal against the cylinder wall.

If it is a cup seal you could try dunking it in boiling water for a few seconds and teasing it out, might expand slightly and give you a better airseal… who knows? :man_shrugging:

Just be careful pulling that box apart… ones like that are full of small springloaded plastic bits that go boing-ting when the shell halves are split. :laughing:

Thats why people got excited about the v2.5 gearbox…its a larger gearbox, with a larger swept volume.

The v2 is a ā€œstandard boxā€, and has been around for awhile.

It goes into many different blasters…but its the same engine, providing the same performance level…nothing really new, performance wise for some time…

The V2.5, as found on the E&C DMR’s are a larger gearbox.
More swept volume, more air being pushed per cycle, allowing matching to longer barrels, for more range and performance.

@Friendly_Fire and i saw one at vipertac ( when it was still open).
I fired it indoors, inside their large warehouse…it was travelling and hitting the upper corner of the roof… around 40+m away…and fairly accurate.!

Good bit of kit…but lends itself to larger rifles, due to the larger size of the cylinder, and longer barrel required…

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Worth noting too that a full size cylinder with all the airseal upgrades in an MP5K only showed 220FPS on the chrono, a gain of about 20FPS.

It’s all in the barrel length. An extension to that barrel showed 280+ on the clock, so proved that the upgrades were working. But take off the inner barrel extension and 220 again.

Which means even if you could fit a larger setup into that Tec-9, you’d see no appreciable gains.

It’s just one of those ā€œenjoy it for the form factorā€ blasters… can’t really be upgraded, much like the Le Hui MP9s, but looks cool nonetheless.

An all metal, gas blow back version would be a different story…

They have em in airsoft…who knows…

If these sell out well, they might consider a GBB import one day.
If not, these are better than nothing…!!

I’m very, very interested to see what sort of difference the upgrade spring does, to the P320 pistol…

It should be here soon…

That’s a little disappointing

I suppose it’s just a case of it is what it is then I guess.

I know I would be keen the have one in full metal GBB form

Hopefully one day :crossed_fingers:t2:

Apparently mp9 gearbox can be shoehorned into the TEC-9, apparently

Would that be this one?

Does appear to be appropriately sized, and reasonably priced

That…sounds like a self imposed challenge…!!

Go…!!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


Not sure how reliable that ai generated information is considering who apparently provided it :grimacing:

Don’t trust Ai…
Don’t trust Gbu…!!

Double bunger…!!

:rofl: :rofl:

yeah not too hard to do, theres videos of it on bilibili: example

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works fine for me, weird.

Cool.!

Wasn’t sure it that gearbox would fit…but it does.
I wonder how much he had to modify the shell…obviously chinese audio.

Anyway, its do-able… and MP-9 gearbox would be one step up from the supplied one.

MP-9 does 190-200 fps right out of the box , so thats the figures were looking for.

:+1: :clap:

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